Am new to computing world but have been following Goad for a few months and feel I can ask a question or two without being made fun of. I am running Windows Me and have found that a lot of software is not compatable. I have a purchased a copy of XP but do not have the knowledge to save certain things on current system, and do not have the money to pay someone to do complete redo of my system. I meet all requirements for running XP.
My question....Can I install a partion manager, and then install XP to the new partion, and then boot to the new partion when I choose? Do you know of a site that can help me to do this?
I have a 60 gig hard drive with XP installed but that computer is not working (I think power switch is problem) Can I install that hard drive as a slave and then boot to it?
I am a senior citizen and can follow directions but have little knowledge so any pointers will be helpful. As I said funds are very low so cannot afford to pay anyone to sort this out, but cannot load any games, and very few apps on current opperating system although I have enough resources to run XP.
I am afraid to try reformat of current computer for fear of screwing it up so bad I'll have nothing.....Any help will be greatly appreciated
Need help and advice
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NotaClue
MemberPosted 16 years ago # -
cimmind
MemberHi.
At the beginning, let me give a disclaimer that i am not an expert. Whatever i discuss, is based on my experience alone.
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I had tried for some time having installations of both WinME and WinXP together, with the boot screen giving the option to boot into either one of them. However, i perceived no real advantage of having two operating systems, and quickly shifted to Windows XP alone. {My initial reason for having dual OS was exact opposite of yours.. a few older games i liked were real nice, and would run only on WinME; not XP!)b>
Personally, i would not recommend having two OS installed on the same gig, unless you are an expert, or have a high-performance machine.c>
Can you tell whether your current hard drive is set as a single partition or multiple, or the Windows OS is on a separate partition. The advantage i had was that my WinXP was set up on a small partition of its own, with all games/programs/software being installed on other partitions. This way, i did not need a partition manager. I just put in the WinME CD, installed it on its own separate partition. [Story was not that straight. It seems its not possible to back-install WinME over or along with XP; so i did a very long hop]d>
Why not shift to just WinXP alone? No advantage in keeping ME. Whether you would loose any data, would depend upon your answer to 'c>' above.e>
Its definitely possible to have a separate hard drive as a slave. But i am not too sure you can have the WinXp loaded on it recognized as a separate OS, without messing with the 'boot.ini' file.Posted 16 years ago # -
watcher13
MemberThe short answer to both your questions Nota is yes. I'll let swifter people than I give you the actual advice, but both your plans are two of the 3 standard ways of doing it, so you can pick and choose. You're obviously not giving yourself enough credit. I just posted in case your currently monitoring, to give you a little early piece of mind while you're waiting for people to spell out the particulars. Very important, though, I'm taking it from what you said that you got a full copy of XP, not just an upgrade. I'm assuming you realize that you can't run an upgrade as a seperate OS, at least I've never heard of it. You have to install it over the ME. But I'm assuming you already know that and have a full version of XP. Only mentioned it because you described yourself as a newbie, though again, I figure you're not giving yourself enough credit.
The 3rd way is to use a virtual environment program. That type of program lets you simulate a new drive/partition. You might consider that first. Good way to testdrive. You might like XP so much, you may decide to wipe your machine and dump ME. ME doesn't have the best rep. However, I don't know what's a good virtual program for ME. Reformatting really isn't anything to worry about. It's just a question of saving files, if you have anyway to back them up. You're not going to be able to save settings. You just start over with that. No big deal.
If you're savvy enough to install the hard drive from that other machine, you might want to just think of trying to short together the wires on that power switch to test it. If you can remove them easily from the switch. In other words, if the wires end in a connector or individual terminals you can get at that you can gently pull off. Or remove the connecter from the other side of the wires - at the mother board - and carefully use a small piece of wire to tie the two terminals together. Assuming there are only two wires. Sometimes, for example, the hard drive light - the one that flashes when your hard drive is working - is on the same terminal, so you'd have to figure out which wires were which. Usually it's marked on the motherboard, like "PWR" and "GND" and "HDD" for the light. Not having a power switch is unlikely to cause your computer to blow a fuse or trip a breaker or damage anything in the short run. (After all, if you give up on it and remove the hard drive, it becomes a paperweight, anyway. So how much harm could you realy do?)
If you install the hard drive, the old fashioned way of changing which hard drive boots is through your BIOS/CMOS settings or your setup program. 3 names for the same thing, which is built into your machine. But that's often the hard way. You'll probably want to get a dual boot program. That will let you change back and forth with relative ease.
I'm simply not up enough on the various software options to give you good recommendations. I know the sharp people here can do better than I. Trust me, nobody's going to laugh at you. It's a good question!
Posted 16 years ago # -
watcher13
MemberWhile I was writing mine, cimmind was writing his, so I didn't see it. Only thing I would add concerns what he said about having more than one partition already. I assume you know that if you did, you'd see it as an extra hard drive letter(s). So you'd have a C and a D. That would move your CD, for example, down to E. If your CD is D, then you probably don't have a 2nd partition. There are sometimes hidden partitions, but it's unlikely you have one unless the rated size of you drive is noticeably bigger than what Windows tells you the drive actually has in total space. Hidden partitions are specialized solutions and it's unlikely you have one.
Posted 16 years ago # -
watcher13
MemberHey nota, I forgot. If that 60 gig hard drive from that bad switch machine is XP, and you say your ME machine has enough power, you could install the XP drive as your master and the ME as the slave. You'd have XP without installing anything, you could transfer all the files from the other drive, and you'd have that drive as extra space. And you could always move it back that XP drive back, if you ever fixed the other machine, especially if it was more powerful. A fourth alternative for you.
Posted 16 years ago # -
penneddragonone
MemberHi Notaclue, Many times you can find an older computer at a thrift shop, on http://www.craigslist.org, or on the street corner or around computer shop dumpsters. I've found and refurbished two computers from my apartment dumpster. One needed a new case fan, a $10 repair. The reason I'm saying that is it is an easy, cheap way to get a new case, power supply, CD player and spare hard drive. Have you checked the battery in your computer? ($1-$5) Sometimes you can jumper the motherboard to reset the bios and the computer will start working. Lots of lousy viruses mess with your computer hardware. You can take your hard drive out, connect it into another computer (or an external USB hard drive case $20) and run a virus check on it and malware check (Malware Bytes is good free program) put it back in your machine and see if it will work. That's for your XP machine.
For your Me machine you can clone your current hard drive to a new one you got from craigslist or salvation army. Then you can try to upgrade your Me to your new XP on your current Me machine. If it works fine. If it doesn't, you still have your original drive.
If you have a vocational education/adult education school in your neighborhood, they probably have a class in computers and could help you or even do it for you free or low cost. Senior citizens and disabled people can go to class free.
But Walmart has a $200 computer (and sometimes Fry's Electronics) that comes with a pretty good set of specifications. I have a computer I dual boot with two hard drives. When I turn the computer on it says F2 for Setup, and F10 for Boot Menu. I hit F10 when I want the second drive. Craigslist has a computer discussion group I think. They might be more help. You can try: Tom's Hardware.com, ComputerHope.com, pc-Hell.com, Raymond.cc. Raymond.cc has forums I think like this one. They might be helpful too.
Whatever you do, you should learn to clone or mirror your drive so that you don't have to reinstall all of your programs. I just did that for my daughter's friend. It took me two days. Cloning a drive takes an hour at most. You want to make sure your drive is virus free or you just wind up cloning the viruses and problems too. Most older computers you can put three IDE hard drives in and one CD/DVD player. So you could put your Me drive in, your XP drive and clone your XP. My daughter for example, has a mirror drive that she unhooks. It is in the computer, but only connected during the cloning process. This is so any virus that gets on the machine doesn't get to the clone drive. When (rarely) the main drive A goes down, I switch the two putting the clean backup drive B as the new boot drive and a copy of B it over A the infected drive making A it the new backup drive. You only lose the files you've installed since the last cloning. It took 3 days to reinstall everything for my daughter's friend. It would've taken 45-60 minutes to clone the drive.
There are some videos online about cloning and doing other work on computers at sites like ehow.com and expertvillage.com.
Older computers have two IDE cables 40 pin or 80 pin. You want the 80 pin cables which allow you to jumper your hard drives to cable select (CS). You don't have to worry about which one is slave and which one is master. There is usually a diagram on the hard drive that tells you where to put the little plastic thing on the back of the hard drive over the two pins to make it a master (MS) slave (SL) or (CS) cable select hard drive. Your BIOS should be set to auto detect IDE devices. Your CD and DVD drives are also IDE devices. They will also show up on your BIOS's IDE device list. If the hard drive you put in doesn't show up in your BIOS, you've probably jumpered it wrong. One IDE cable is PRIMARY the other is SECONDARY. Each has a motherboard connector at the end and room for two IDE devices one a Master and one a Slave.
Motherboard<>----------------------<>Slave--------<>Master.The 80 pin cable looks like the 40 pin, but the wires are smaller, and you just set all the drives for cable select so you don't have to worry about using a tweezers to change the tiny jumper on the back of the hard drive all the time to change it from master to slave, et cetera.
Norton's Ghost or Acronis are two programs you can use for cloning drives. There are others.
When you put your XP drive from one machine to another, sometimes it will work. But you usually have to use the CD to repair the XP installation. It's not the first repair option you get on the CD. It is the second one. You usually need to get drivers for the XP installation that relate to the new machine's different hardware. You can use free Belarc Advisor and CPUZ to find out about each machine's hardware and go to the hardware manufacturer's website to get the driver's for that hardware.
You go to start, control panel, system, hardware manager, device manager to check all of your devices. If there are no yellow question marks or exclamation marks in the list, you're all set. If there are, well that's another story.
Vocational Ed schools are the nations biggest well kept secret besides public libraries. You meet nice people there and can learn almost any technical skill. I think 60 gigs is a very small drive. I have filled up a 250 gigabit drive. I just bought for $60 last summer and that's with one operating system. There are Terabyte hard drives on sale for $180 these days. You can hook up a newer computer's video card to your TV and watch TV online at http://www.hulu.com, etc. It helped me get rid of a $50 a month cable bill. If that makes new computer more affordable.
Protect your new installation with a paid Antivirus, firewall suite, and a couple of good, updated regularly, malware scanners. (Avast, Zone Alarm, Malware Bytes, Spybot Search and Destroy). Check out Gizmo, Tech Support website. It's named something like that. He is real helpful too.
Sorry to write so much, but I remember how hard it was trying to keep my daughter and myself under a roof and keep up with the technical expectations of her school. Half of every paycheck went to fix a car or house or computer. Finally learned to fix most of all three at the vocational education school. I wish you well.
Posted 16 years ago # -
NotaClue
MemberMany thanks to all who offered their help. I am getting brave enough to try now!!
I am going to try using "do dad" that lights up if power is going thru first. See if power is getting thru to hard drive on xp machine as suggested....Jumper thingy....(printed it out..lol) Will also try adding hard drive as primary if that doesn't work....If you see a cloud of smoke over south part of Louisiana USA you'll know I really messed it up...lol....Gonna be at least three days before I try tho as have some family (Mom...75 years old and ill) to contend with first. Please keep offering your suggestions as I welcome not only the input and knowledge that you offer but also the chance to learn and the chance to communicate with persons who have interests such as mine. Thanks all!!Posted 16 years ago # -
Anonymous
UnregisteredWindows Millennium is a piece of junk.
Save all you personal items to an external hard drive, or a large thumb drive,
or LS 120, or a large zip disk.Then install XP as a standalone operating system.
Unless you are a developer it's pointless having more than one ops (operating system)
installed.If your old software don't work on XP try the compatibility function.
Or visit the authors site for an updated version that supports XP.Windows Millennium was a rush job, it is the worst ops ever written by Microsoft.
When you have XP up and running, visit amazon and sell Windows Millennium there.
Currently at amazon.co.uk it's on offer by a private seller for £114 new (cheapest)
to £16.99 used (cheapest).You will enjoy Windows XP, as long as you have correct drivers and compatible software you can kiss good bye to BSOD.
Posted 16 years ago # -
k
MemberI just ask a computer tech (friend of mine) what might happen if you used the XP drive as the Master in your ME machine. (btw... he says ME stands for My Enemy ;) )
He said it should work, but you will likely have a few driver issues. That can be solved by installing the proper drivers.This is what I would do, (assuming you can't fix the XP machine)......
Setup the XP drive as the Master, and leave the ME disconnected at this point.
Boot up, and if it works, get on line and go to http://www.innovative-sol.com/drivermax/
Download DriverMax (it's free) and install, then run it. It will help you find drivers you need. I use it, and it works well.
One you get XP running to your satisfaction, you can connect the ME drive as a Slave, so you can move or copy any files you need, to the main drive. But be careful not run any programs installed on the ME drive, as this will screw up the registry. Also don't move or copy any 'installed' programs from ME to the XP drive, files only.At this point you can disconnect the ME drive and set it aside, or reformat the drive, and use it for storage/backups/downloads/whatever.
I agree completely with Lee, ME is junk!
Posted 16 years ago # -
k
Memberwatcher13
"I'm assuming you realize that you can't run an upgrade as a seperate OS, at least I've never heard of it."Yes you can. I use a XP upgrade on my old ThinkPad. I am asked during install for a full version disk of Windows. It can be any previous version of Windows, or even a full version of XP. I place it in the CD tray, Windows checks the disk, and reboots, and asks that you place the upgrade disk in the tray again, and it installs just fine as a clean install, not an upgrade. ;)
Posted 16 years ago # -
penneddragonone
MemberLee is right IMO about Me being the worst OS Windows developed.
Don't forget to check the obvious stuff on the XP computer that won't go. Change the black power cord with the working one and try plugging it into a different outlet. Outlet's go bad and black cords go bad. You can buy a new one at Radio Shack or get off of used thrift shop computer or monitor. Try to vacuum out the computer and power supply and fans with the hose part/attachment of a vacuum cleaner. Can use the compressed air in a can sold at electronic stores, but you should do it outside (can cause an asthma or allergy attack if you do it inside). Should do it once a year or twice if you have a cat or pet in the house. You can buy a power supply tester at and electronic store. But if the fan isn't blowing when you turn the power supply on from the power supply on off switch, it's probably broken. Most people don't know you have to change the button battery in your computer. Gizmo's website is techsupport.com. He has some videos for doing some stuff. Raymond.cc is also a great site. Before you unplug anything you should draw a diagram of what it looks like before you take it apart. I used a permanent marker to show what connector went where. You can use masking tape, too. You should touch the case to ground out the electricity in your hands before you touch boards in your computer. Just the static electricity alone can kill your motherboard (or you can buy an antistatic bracelet at an electronics store that will ground out the body's static charge. About cloning I strongly urge you to get a college kid or tech student to show you how to do it the first time. You have to be very careful which drive you select as the source and which as the destination or you can clone the empty new drive to the full old drive and wind up with two completely blank drives! I took my old drive and put it in a $20 case/shell and made it and external drive. Laptop drives are especially good for this because they are about the size of a cigarette box and you can scan all the pictures of all your family members and take them to all of your kids. I live in California and we get hit by fires all the time. Having a backup offsite of important documents and photos could save you some grief if something like a fire were to hit your home and destroy your photos and your hard drive. The plastic thingy in the back of the hard drive is about as wide as the letters 'as' are. They are very hard to extract and easy to lose in the carpet and are essential to the operation of the hard drive in the IDE configuration. I found some on an old computer that had a flange on them that made them easier to extract and reposition. Pay attention to which screws you took from where. I tape them to a piece of paper and write where I got them from. The diagram is essential..you think you will remember what goes where, but it's not always that clear when you try to put things back together. One of my classmates is named Smoky now 'cause he was too lazy to mark the connectors or draw a diagram. Smoky has grey hair and an engineering degree and one less computer. People never have the time to do something right, but they always have the time to do it over. The IDE cable connectors are keyed on one long side. The key notch is tiny. I just wrote a big T on the tops of my connectors before I took them out. If you try to force the long IDE connectors in you can bend one of the 40 pins on the hard drive. You don't want to do that. You don't have to unplug the IDE cable to disconnect the hard drive, you can just unplug the plastic thingy...molex power connector on the back. If you didn't mark the top of the connector and you can't see the key notch, there is usually a red wire running lengthwise on the cable. That red wire side is usually positioned close to the hard drive's power connector. The molex connector is keyed to in that two of its edges are beveled so it can only go in one way. If you need a longer cord or another molex connector, they sell Y-adaptor molex connectors that give you an extra power connector from your power supply. Memory sticks and video cards have locks on the motherboard connectors. Look for the plastic levers on the ends and unlock them before you try to take them out or put them in. You should watch some videos on how to build your own computer on Youtube, Guba, eHow, or Expertvillage so you will know what's what when you crack your computer open. Unplug your computer anytime you do anything to it. If you plug it in to test something, unplug it again before you remove or insert something. Never work on a monitor the electricity stored in it can be deadly even unplugged. If you buy something with a rebate on it, don't cut the UPC off of the box and send in for the rebate before you know that the thing actually works in your computer. You can't return something you turned in a rebate for. They make hard drives that use IDE cables (ATA, IDE); newer hard drives (SATA serial ATA) that use a skinny red cable; and small laptop hard drives. You can put any of them into your computer with the right adaptor ($8-$10). You only need one DVD player/recorder (make sure it records as well as plays DVDs-some say DVD on them but only play DVDs). If you put a bunch of stuff in your computer you might need a bigger power supply. If your PS2 mouse or keyboard stops working, you can buy a USB one and keep using your computer. You can unplug your monitor and any USB connected device while your computer is on, but don't unplug any other type of connector while it is on, except the power cord to the wall and internet connector cord. http://www.download.com and http://www.cnet.com, and http://www.frewarefiles.com are cool places for free software. Set or create a new restore point before you install new software. If it messes up your system you can "go back" to the previous installation state with Start>Help and Support Center>Undo changes to your computer with System Restore>Restore my computer to an earlier time. Run Malwarebytes and Spybot Search and Destroy every week. Keep your antivirus up to date.
Posted 16 years ago # -
watcher13
MemberThanks a lot k! I get smarter every day and, for me, that's a real accomplishment! :)
See, Nota? I told you there were a lot smarter people than I was lurking around here! There's some other good options for you. You should look over all this good info.
Windows comes with a partition tool and ways to dual boot, but many people find them probematic. I was hoping folks would recommend their favorite partition utility and boot manager, or Virtual partition creater, and may yet. But I forgot that Gizmo's site, that penneddragon mentioned, has active pages on both the best free partitioning tools and the best free ghosting tools.
http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/best-free-partition-manager.htm
http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-drive-imaging-program.htmPower Quest Partition that Lee mentioned is no longer in production. Power Quest was sold years ago and some of it's Partiiton's features have been bundled into other software. You might want to go with something newer.
Nota, I'm kicking myself for not remebering Gizmo's site. It's a great site that I strongly recommend. It evaluates the best freeware for all kinds of things and the best part of that is that it's editors pay serious attention to it's comments section. They test suggestions the posters make and therefore keep their lists up to date. The comments are a little goofy to read. They're in reverse order with latest first (which is not uncommon), but replies to a particular comment are posted under that comment, offset from the main comment, so you kind of go back and forth between reading up and reading down. Just takes a little getting used to. Also, it has forums for advice and many tutorials. Very useful!
Whew penneddragon! I think my heads gonna explode! That's good stuff. A couple of quick reactions to what was said, nota. In the long run, learning to clone maybe the best advice here. You should definitely check out the sights with how to videos. Shoulda recommended that myself. To exaggerate a little, you can find videos that will practically take you down to the smallest screws. But, just so you know, the little plastic thingy that penneddragon correctly mentioned to move back and forth between MA(ster), (SL)ave, or (best option if you have the cable) Cable Select (CS) positions on a hard drive is called a jumper. I've seen them in white and black. A few, a least some older ones I've seen, of the hard drive data cables don't have a key, so they can accidentally be put in backwards. The red wire is meant to go to pin 1 of the 40 pin connectors on the drive and the motherboard. Sometimes another way you can avoid confusion is because pin 1 on both motherboard and drive is often marked. Cable select compatible cables are often color coded. The blue connector goes on the motherboard, the black on the master and the grey on the slave drive.
Haven't used ME myself, but the consensus opinion is certainly that it's the biggest dog that MS ever produced. I'd guess even most Vista haters would agree that ME is worse, so you ought to be really happy when you go to XP. I'm not sure if many programs written for ME would actually damage your XP registry, although XP and ME are from different families and there registries are significantly different, but the bottom line is trying to run programs from your ME slave drive while running XP is probably not going to go smoothly. Really, trying to replace that software with XP versions or trying to find alternatives is the way to go. Or dual booting.
To elaborate on what I said in an earlier post, the safest, but certainly not the easiest, is to use your setup program when you turn on the computer to switch whether the master or slave drive boots the computer. Most setup programs (also called BIOS or CMOS) allow you to do that. When you first turn on you'll see a message somewhere on your screen that says "press esc (or F1, or F10, (etc...) to enter setup. It won't hurt you to get to know your setup because you can't accidentally mess up anything. The program will always ask you if you want to save any changes you made. Just say no, if your just poking around. You don't have to worry about most of the settings. Almost all are now managed by Windows, anyway. It should give you options on which order your disk should boot the computer. You simply change from disk0 (master) to disk1 (slave). And then change back when you want to boot in master. Pretty much foolproof but a little bit of a hassle. Almost foolproof and a lot easier is using the built in dual boot configuration option in XP (modifying the boot.ini file cimmind was talking about). You need to add a new line to the file pointing to the slave drive and the OS (ME), but I haven't found the exact syntax so I haven't posted it. That gives you a menu asking if you want to boot from XP or ME when you startup. I'm sure someone here knows it. If you mess it up, though, you may have to boot from your XP CD or make the ME drive the master again, boot from it, and restore XPs boot.ini file (from a copy you were wise enough to make, first!). A recoverable error. Putting them both on the same drive and using a 3rd party boot manager is also easy, but since Windows doesn't always play well with even it's own brothers and sisters, you may have to work out a few bugs. That's true with running XP virtually, which is also pretty easy.
Good luck! And let us know your progress.
Posted 16 years ago # -
penneddragonone
MemberWatcher13 sorry to give you a headache. I just didn't want Nota to make some of the mistakes I've made or seen made.
I was so busy writing to Nota I missed the Inauguration. You can get the text of it on the http://www.gutenberg.org free book site.
I'm from Kentucky too. Lived in Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Ohio, Texas and California. I saw the Where are you from thread. Seems like a lot of forum folks like to travel. Lived in Italy and England a couple of years myself. I just found a web site called http://www.couchsurfing.com. My brother asked me how they keep the couch on the surface of the water. Anyway you host travelers on your couch or guest room and they return the favor when you're in their neck of the woods. I had a couple from Hawaii here for a few days. Nice folks.
http://www.Raymond.co website is great, too, Nota. Computerhope.com is supposed to be helpful to people. Nota, there are new IDE cables available that are folded/accordianed up into a flexible, cylindrical sleeve so that they are not so obstructive of airflow in the case. The kids are all getting that kind. Rather they were until the Serial ATA drives came out and use entirely different connector cables. I got a real helpful set of tools at Frys Electronics that has the power supply and USB cable and adaptors to make any drive, ATA, SATA or Notebook drive into an external hard disk drive. Mine was $25. The reason I push cloning is because the computer techs charge so much to reinstall systems these days. My daughter's friend was to have paid $255 for a basic reinstall at a local establishment. She got an aggressive virus that knocked out her restore partition. She had already paid $126 for an evaluation of the computer. Thanks for the clarification of my scribbles!
Posted 16 years ago # -
penneddragonone
Memberhttp://www.couchsurfing.com is a worldwide project.
Posted 16 years ago # -
penneddragonone
MemberThat great tech site was http://www.raymond.cc not co. He has a daily blog you can sign up for, too.
The plastic thingy I was talking about comes on the hard drive and the placement of the jumper, jumper setting, tells the computer whether you want the drive to be a master or a slave or cable select. It was critical with the old 40 pin cable that it match your IDE connector Black Master or Grey Slave. There is usually a jumper setting diagram on the cover of the hard drive indicating the placement of each setting. Most Hard drives come jumpered as Master. I always change it to cable select CS. I always have to dig the stupid jumper out of the carpet because my manual dexterity has taken a nose dive lately. I'm not sure how the SATA drives work. They may all be masters since there is only one device per red cable. Or it may not even be an issue with them. Its cool I can put four SATA drives and three ATA drives on my computer's motherboard. The power supply would never take the strain, and where do you mount the drives in the case...
Oh well, I'm lucky to afford one drive. Good luck Nota!Posted 16 years ago # -
watcher13
MemberI think you understood penneddragon that I was complimenting you, not criticizing. Thought I'd post just in case. That's really good stuff, I recommend nota looks over everything you've written. I lose my jumpers in the carpet a lot, too. I don't know if I mentioned in the other forum, I'm from Pittsburgh. Moved to Somerset 26 years ago, and then Richmond 24 years ago. I was stationed in Sicily in the Navy. Know one other forum member from Kentucky. Archangel lives in Western Kentucky.
Posted 16 years ago # -
copmom
MemberCan't help but laughing at all the lost jumpers getting lost, either in the carpet or inside the case behind one of the installed drives.. they DO jump. Someone gave me a tip on removing them.. use an opened paper clip to snag it. Some jumpers have a little teensy wire on top that you can snag it with instead of tweezers (which they always "boing" out of)! Whenever I get rid of a machine, I keep my old hard drives so I keep the jumpers in a teensy ziplock in case I can't find the lost ones.
Posted 16 years ago # -
penneddragonone
MemberI'm not upset Watcher13. If I seemed to be I didn't mean it. Copmom, you can understand my joy then at finding the stupid little flanged jumpers on an old motherboard. I keep them next to my only piece of good china, a cup with a chicken on it, under a glass cake dish centerpiece thing. I really need to look up synonyms for "thing". I know Archangel a little bit. I emailed him a while back. He is very knowledgeable and helpful. Again, Watcher13, I really liked your response to my run on paragraph. I just don't communicate very well...I wind up annoying all of my friends and they wash away until the tide washes them back again. They're all on the high seas now so I had time to respond maybe more than I should have. Oh, there I see one on the far horizon...No..no, it's my daughter's friend. She wants to know how to turn off the antivirus and firewall that is keeping her from going to the website she got the virus from that made her have to "let" me spend three days reinstalling her system..... She wouldn't "let" me show her how to clone a drive and she wouldn't buy one so I could do it for her. If it wasn't for my daughter glaring at me...I'd let her technophobe friend float right on back out to sea...
I gotta go to class and find out how to use today's software...
Gizmo's website is not techsupport.com it is techsupportalert.com. Really thank you for correcting that Watcher. His site is great! But Raymond.cc's rocks!!! IMHO. ;)
Posted 16 years ago # -
watcher13
MemberMy last off topic post on this one, I promise. Your being too hard on yourself, penneddragon. You run on because you've got a lot to say. You broke up your first post with paragraphs. Sometimes, folks just get too busy to dot all the I's and cross all the T's. We've pretty much all been there and done that. By the way, I didn't post those Gizmo pages to correct you. I didn't catch it. I just posted those links to point nota and others to those specific pages. :)
Posted 16 years ago # -
scubaguy (R.I.P.)
MemberFor NotaClue
As I said in the other thread,below.http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/4614/page/2#post-49889
I have made a post here so it will bring your thread to the top of main page for you to locate, I hope the suggestions I made at the above link will help.
Another way to save the information that was given by the other members,would be if you have a snipet or screen capture program,use it to save only the info you want to use,and can then view it offline if you wish.
Posted 16 years ago # -
watcher13
MemberGood idea, scuba. Thanks for helping nota, although, I might suggest that since it's just text, nota, you can highlight what you need, copy it, and paste it into a new notepad or wordpad document. Or you can just save the whole webpage in your browser. With any of the 3 ways, you don't have to be connected to look at the suggestions.
Posted 16 years ago # -
scubaguy (R.I.P.)
MemberHi Watcher13
I am not sure as to what level of geekness Nota is at,so I tried to give her/him as many options as possible in the link above. Hope at least one of our sugestions will help.
Just trying to pay it forward, for the many times members have helped me in my time of need.
I see by your profile you are somewhat new here so,A big welcome to the forums!Posted 16 years ago # -
Whiterabbit-uk
Games GuruHi scubaguy; I hope all is well with you? Regards
Whiterabbit
Posted 16 years ago # -
NotaClue
MemberThank you w13....I have program called metapad which some kind soul linked to before and I was alert enough to get, so will use it to save all help offered. You are a kind person to help so much. Mr WRabbit..I like your posts and consider your help above most. Thanks to all who offer to help us lame ducks!!! I'd be condemed to watching t.v. if not for the help of persons like you....Just wish I could return the favor some day
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